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June 27, 2006

NY Times & SWIFT

I understand from a perusal of The Washington Post and some reporting on outgoing US Secretary of Treasury Snow's comments that much is being made on the more irrational or emotional side of the American Right of the NYT revealing that American authorities have been tapping SWIFT's database fishing for information.

While the sentiments are in some way understandable, I have to say, chill mates, everyone who had the slightest clue about international wires etc. assumed this was happening anyway. This is only "news" in the political sense. Bloody hell, you can't fucking go to an American government function without some US rep or another whanking on about wires.....

Of course, I know in fact the outrage is all political theater and part of the process, but it is helpful to once in a while be a voice of moderation here and there (lest someone take the yapping of the ideologues - Left or Right - at little too seriously).

What I found most amusing and interesting was the Belgian authorities response. Very Casablanca-esque a la Claude Raine's prefect: "I'm shocked......" Right. I rather expect Belgian official weaseling (insofar as weaseling is what Belgian officials specialise in) to be actually more hypocritical than the American Ridiculous Right's whinging on, but more low-key.

Updated
On further thought, my sole source of surprise (being in the financial sector, having US Gov connexions, etc) was really that the US bothered to ask. Afraid I rather assumed they tamped in anyway.

Updated - Bis
It occurs to me to note that while not being particularly excited with the fact of the American government tracing my own wires hither and thither, am not particularly bothered by it either. Certianly while I very much doubt that they are getting significant terror or even black market money information from SWIFT data, as dirty and suspect money tends to go via things less obvious than wires, it should have a role in preventing terror or criminal cells in too easily using the banking system.

That being said, I do have the impression US Gov people are staggeringly ignorant when it comes to non-fin system alternatives to transfering and generating money. Either that or those out and about love whanking on about money laundering via the banks.....

Posted by The Lounsbury at June 27, 2006 03:41 PM
Filed Under: Politics - US FP

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No kidding, hardly unexpected, nor complicated (e.g. anyone wiring over a certain threshold from a MENA country gets flagged). I know int'l students who were questioned after paying fees, etc.

You'd think by now people would be aware of how many linked databases there are in this world (banking, airline bookings, etc) and the infinite potential for surveillance/datamining in systems that log everything and store data forever.

But yes of course, let the requisite faux-shock and fingerpointing continue.

Posted by: eerie [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 27, 2006 06:43 PM

Europe is the big hypocrite here, yes. On one hand, there are the governments and the EU commission who gladly do what USA asks them to. On the other, there is the European street and the EU parliament both decidedly against this stuff. Solution: have the US do the laundry. If nicked, we feign dismay. The problem of Guantanamo is that it's so public. No wonder Europe is set on getting it closed. bah.

Posted by: Klaus [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 27, 2006 11:11 PM

Kha.

Yes, the problem with Guantanamo is that is indeed so very garishly public.

And now the bloody SWIFT thing, public and oh my, the Belgian security services are shocked and dismayed. Inconvenient, this publicity.

Posted by: The Lounsbury at June 28, 2006 12:03 AM

Well, yes, all the shock is pretty stupid considering the USG effectively told everyone they were doing this at big international symposia three or four years ago.

Back in, IIRC, 2002-2003, the USG went absolutely nuts over the hawala system precisely because transactions could not be monitored. You'd have to be pretty bloody clueless not to conclude from that they were monitoring transactions in the formal banking sector.

Anyway, all this angst over these "security leaks" presupposes that these terrorist groups have all the sophistication of mildly-retarded twelve-year-olds. Any terrorist group worth its salt must have assumed that formal banking and communications channels have been monitored all along and acted accordingly.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 28, 2006 01:55 AM

i wonder what the USG, in all its wisdom, thinks of my various financial transactions? north africa, southeastern europe (the less-than-greek part), etc etc...

speaking of less-than-mainstram financial transactions, my family hosted an exchange student from morocco for a year. he came with bricks of hard currency stuffed in his socks, shoes, and other, less savoury places. his parents would mail him magazines periodically with currency slipped between the pages. i'll leave the financial experts to explain why he had to move large amounts of currency out of maroc through such means.

heh. this also reminds me of working the currency black market in albania. good times. those poor money traders sure were starved for dollars and euros.

Posted by: drdougfir [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 28, 2006 05:12 AM

Currency controls for citizens, capping hard currency transfer outgoing, that's the reason for your exchange student's odd behaviour. Of course everyone knows about it.

Re Anon: precisely.

Posted by: The Lounsbury at June 28, 2006 10:02 AM

I've seen that movie where the guy was "shocked", and I know what happens next. A dude comes walks in with a stack of money on a tray and says "Your winnings, sir." If only it would happen in the middle of a Congressional hearing.

Posted by: Roger Bigod at June 29, 2006 05:51 AM

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